The Monthly Battle Master contest - March 2010

[JoanaJJ]

tell me something....

[SniperMexi]

its not time, its effort.. if i spent 10 years on graffiti, but didnt actually try to improve by using simples.. id still be at the same level.

well i have dude. and to be honest i dont think my piece is really that bad. ive seen yours and i can do better.

[Gone84]

I wouldn't want to watch a year 8 schoolboy playing in the world cup(maybe a school girl....dirty old man style).

HAHAHAHAHHA i was wondering if anybody actually reads all that shit i post in here.

[Gone84]

its not time, its effort.. if i spent 10 years on graffiti, but didnt actually try to improve by using simples.. id still be at the same level.

well i have dude. and to be honest i dont think my piece is really that bad. ive seen yours and i can do better.

You havent proven it with the entry in this round

[Wesdadude]

Yes gone, I thought it was sig worthy. Also it's usually those in the know are the ones who read what you post.

Mexi, Put in in ur au (make one if you dont have one already, they're powerful tools) and get crits, this forum is for posting completed battle pieces that are WORTH POSTING. If you post something awful in here your just going to get flamed to hell, not constructive crits. Mindgem warned you, you thanked him and now your posting here and then trying to defend your work. When will you learn.

An Joanna I'm going to tell you to stop posting in this forum. Go learn first, battle later.

Mint

[tusk]

its not time, its effort.. if i spent 10 years on graffiti, but didnt actually try to improve by using simples.. id still be at the same level.

well i have dude. and to be honest i dont think my piece is really that bad. ive seen yours and i can do better.

battle him then but dont enter in this contest

[username10]

tell me something....

ight the first one im not feelin...the second one is pretty clean just maybe add 3d but other then that i think the second is pretty good

[DoubleR]

[slaveofjesus]

y jost have a question, from where du you gat markers?

[Taok]

well i havent seen your stuff here. 0_0 and besides ive seen worse pieces on here hardly any ppl enter submissions per month. im just adding in a lil. And what i meant by "people like you mess up this world" is that u dont see terrorist, rapist, etc...... on a normal basis yet those mean ppl can be found anywhere.

the thing is, that on this forum there are 2983982983698762986329863298623 threads for crits and amateur stuff. The battle thread is a major league event. I wouldn't want to watch a year 8 schoolboy playing in the world cup(maybe a school girl....dirty old man style). But really, why would anyone want to see beginners in a showcase of talent? It's not bad to lack experience ias long as you are tryin to gain some. It's bad to place that lack of experience in the wrong circles. Consider for once that the battle thread is actually on the front page of graffiticreator. Do you really believe that having a link to shitty work on the front page of one's site is an attractive thing?


Oh yeah, and contrary to Taok's skewed opinion, I kinda like that Senate piece. There is potential there. Some of you cats need to stop thinking anything with arrows is shit. To deny arrows is to deny all of wildstyle tradition. If done proper (and senate's are ok IMO) they are great things.

Just wondering, how is my opinion skewed?

I have never ONCE said all arrows are bad. If you can find ONE place where I did, then throw this all in my face, but I promise you, you won't. The placement of them is OK, I agree, but the problem is they just "appear" with no connection point. IMO it really hurts them and makes the whole piece look a lot worse.

Also, I see no way you can disagree with the rest of what I said. If you please tell me HOW the 3D is correct, or what that squiggle above the T is (I hope it isn't the L) then please do so. But I don't see it happening.

As I said, it's looks alright, It's better than a lot of what we see in here. I just see some glaring flaws, and like any critic of art, pointed out said flaws. It's what I'd expect anyone to do to my work.

No beef intended, at all. I just thinking your lumping me in with the wrong crowd, and it's a crowd I'd rather not be lumped in with.

[Atmos]

I wouldn't want to watch a year 8 schoolboy playing in the world cup(maybe a school girl....dirty old man style).

HAHAHAHAHHA i was wondering if anybody actually reads all that shit i post in here.

Ahaha. Yeah, I usually read these threads, but I try not to post much in here, since I never enter or anything.

[CracKBundy]

CracK Bundy from Turkey.Castle Graffiti.

[henkid]

once again, please do practise on bars and simples, before you damage anyone's eyes...

No disrespect.

[mimiC]

its not time, its effort.. if i spent 10 years on graffiti, but didnt actually try to improve by using simples.. id still be at the same level.

well i have dude. and to be honest i dont think my piece is really that bad. ive seen yours and i can do better.

Woah. 1st off, i havnt posted an entry in the monthly battle master thingy.. 2nd, i havnt updated my au in ages.. 3rd, i'll battle you.. sure thing.. but it'll be in a couple off weeks though, i have my science GCSE's tommorow.

[Gone84]

well i havent seen your stuff here. 0_0 and besides ive seen worse pieces on here hardly any ppl enter submissions per month. im just adding in a lil. And what i meant by "people like you mess up this world" is that u dont see terrorist, rapist, etc...... on a normal basis yet those mean ppl can be found anywhere.

the thing is, that on this forum there are 2983982983698762986329863298623 threads for crits and amateur stuff. The battle thread is a major league event. I wouldn't want to watch a year 8 schoolboy playing in the world cup(maybe a school girl....dirty old man style). But really, why would anyone want to see beginners in a showcase of talent? It's not bad to lack experience ias long as you are tryin to gain some. It's bad to place that lack of experience in the wrong circles. Consider for once that the battle thread is actually on the front page of graffiticreator. Do you really believe that having a link to shitty work on the front page of one's site is an attractive thing?


Oh yeah, and contrary to Taok's skewed opinion, I kinda like that Senate piece. There is potential there. Some of you cats need to stop thinking anything with arrows is shit. To deny arrows is to deny all of wildstyle tradition. If done proper (and senate's are ok IMO) they are great things.

Just wondering, how is my opinion skewed?

I have never ONCE said all arrows are bad. If you can find ONE place where I did, then throw this all in my face, but I promise you, you won't. The placement of them is OK, I agree, but the problem is they just "appear" with no connection point. IMO it really hurts them and makes the whole piece look a lot worse.

Also, I see no way you can disagree with the rest of what I said. If you please tell me HOW the 3D is correct, or what that squiggle above the T is (I hope it isn't the L) then please do so. But I don't see it happening.

As I said, it's looks alright, It's better than a lot of what we see in here. I just see some glaring flaws, and like any critic of art, pointed out said flaws. It's what I'd expect anyone to do to my work.

No beef intended, at all. I just thinking your lumping me in with the wrong crowd, and it's a crowd I'd rather not be lumped in with.

skewed maybe not the best word. but you and kringe both are the same when it comes to the arrows thing. The minute you cats see arrows its a **** panic. The arrows in that piece are fine if they were drawn more tightly. Since when does anything have to come from anywhere? They are arrows for christ's sake. letters werent born with arrows last ii looked so if you are adding something extra, why not add it however? As long as it fits the flow of the body as a whole, decorations are decorations. Dude's letters have very good potential if developed. Just seems like you and Kringe(and yes the two of you definitely should be lumped together) have this instant trigger when it comes to arrows.


and yeah, the 3d is definitely **** up

[jore]

Ill think i join in this... Been here long without acc and think no more im toy :)

[Dwight]

Ill think i join in this... Been here long without acc and think no more im toy :)

show us what u got! :P

[AmonTe]

here u go my toy peice couldnt color since im out of markers.

I mean im no graffiti judge butttttt i think the S and the T are alittle **** up.......

[Anrkyzt47]

do people usually wait til the end of the month to enter there work?

[kinso]

You can, or you can do it now,
It seems better to do it earlier, so you can get feedback..

[neOne]

Critics please..i know it's not a MonaLisa but i hope it's OK..

[mimiC]

That's my version.. [img]C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\Admin\Desktop\DSC00107.JPG[/img]

upload to http://www.photobucket.com then get the IMG code.

[Anrkyzt47]

well is it okay to post multiple one of that months battle contest and see which one is the best (pot it on the au?)

[Senate]

A quick Re work of my sketch, now into the pre final phase, add the highlights.
3d Was a little weird! Thanks for the feedback, hopefully better now.
Senate

[mimiC]

Rules:
Only submit 1 piece in this thread.



read the rules.

[Taok]

well i havent seen your stuff here. 0_0 and besides ive seen worse pieces on here hardly any ppl enter submissions per month. im just adding in a lil. And what i meant by "people like you mess up this world" is that u dont see terrorist, rapist, etc...... on a normal basis yet those mean ppl can be found anywhere.

the thing is, that on this forum there are 2983982983698762986329863298623 threads for crits and amateur stuff. The battle thread is a major league event. I wouldn't want to watch a year 8 schoolboy playing in the world cup(maybe a school girl....dirty old man style). But really, why would anyone want to see beginners in a showcase of talent? It's not bad to lack experience ias long as you are tryin to gain some. It's bad to place that lack of experience in the wrong circles. Consider for once that the battle thread is actually on the front page of graffiticreator. Do you really believe that having a link to shitty work on the front page of one's site is an attractive thing?


Oh yeah, and contrary to Taok's skewed opinion, I kinda like that Senate piece. There is potential there. Some of you cats need to stop thinking anything with arrows is shit. To deny arrows is to deny all of wildstyle tradition. If done proper (and senate's are ok IMO) they are great things.

Just wondering, how is my opinion skewed?

I have never ONCE said all arrows are bad. If you can find ONE place where I did, then throw this all in my face, but I promise you, you won't. The placement of them is OK, I agree, but the problem is they just "appear" with no connection point. IMO it really hurts them and makes the whole piece look a lot worse.

Also, I see no way you can disagree with the rest of what I said. If you please tell me HOW the 3D is correct, or what that squiggle above the T is (I hope it isn't the L) then please do so. But I don't see it happening.

As I said, it's looks alright, It's better than a lot of what we see in here. I just see some glaring flaws, and like any critic of art, pointed out said flaws. It's what I'd expect anyone to do to my work.

No beef intended, at all. I just thinking your lumping me in with the wrong crowd, and it's a crowd I'd rather not be lumped in with.

skewed maybe not the best word. but you and kringe both are the same when it comes to the arrows thing. The minute you cats see arrows its a **** panic. The arrows in that piece are fine if they were drawn more tightly. Since when does anything have to come from anywhere? They are arrows for christ's sake. letters werent born with arrows last ii looked so if you are adding something extra, why not add it however? As long as it fits the flow of the body as a whole, decorations are decorations. Dude's letters have very good potential if developed. Just seems like you and Kringe(and yes the two of you definitely should be lumped together) have this instant trigger when it comes to arrows.


and yeah, the 3d is definitely **** up

No, I don't. Neither does Kringe actually, from what I can tell.

Oh and, well, seeing as your old, you listen to The Beatles hate hip-hop and enjoy politics. So does MG, Dust and Dookie.

See how easy it is too baselessly generalize people?


As I said, find ONE place where I didn't have a reason to dislike the person's arrows, and I'll concede the point. But until you can PROVE to me that I fit this fake "me: you have in your mind, please, I would ask you to stop calling this other person I don't know "Taok" or "you" when talking to me.


As for the decorations, did you even read what I said? Or just skim it and try and pick-out something to make you seem like you're all knowing (after all, it fits your massive ego (isn't generalizing people for no reason fun?)). What I said was, that because they come from nowhere it IMO (notice how that means in my "OPINION") makes the piece look worse. That being the problem with them. Not the fact that they do come out of nowhere. Though, I will admit, IMO, generally arrows that just "appear" do tend to look bad.

[Atmos]

Oh and, well, seeing as your old, you listen to The Beatles hate hip-hop and enjoy politics. So does MG, Dust and Dookie.

Oh shit.
I laughed my a*s off.

[jore]

here's my entry
castle.

[Senate]

Rules:
Only submit 1 piece in this thread.



read the rules.

I have read the rules and my first post was the sketch for the battle contest, the second one is a rework of the sketch, Not submitted, but just to show the other people that a sketch can look better, after I have now understood the level of the criticism that I was getting regarding the shading, arrows, blocks.....etc. Proving that I am interested in the feed back and can re work the idea after getting some feedback on the way others see my first submission. The reworked version is a little cleaned up as the things that other members mentioned about my piece where not clear to me, as I normally write Senate, and not Castle........

Thanks to the people that did like my work....

Senate

[Gone84]

well i havent seen your stuff here. 0_0 and besides ive seen worse pieces on here hardly any ppl enter submissions per month. im just adding in a lil. And what i meant by "people like you mess up this world" is that u dont see terrorist, rapist, etc...... on a normal basis yet those mean ppl can be found anywhere.

the thing is, that on this forum there are 2983982983698762986329863298623 threads for crits and amateur stuff. The battle thread is a major league event. I wouldn't want to watch a year 8 schoolboy playing in the world cup(maybe a school girl....dirty old man style). But really, why would anyone want to see beginners in a showcase of talent? It's not bad to lack experience ias long as you are tryin to gain some. It's bad to place that lack of experience in the wrong circles. Consider for once that the battle thread is actually on the front page of graffiticreator. Do you really believe that having a link to shitty work on the front page of one's site is an attractive thing?


Oh yeah, and contrary to Taok's skewed opinion, I kinda like that Senate piece. There is potential there. Some of you cats need to stop thinking anything with arrows is shit. To deny arrows is to deny all of wildstyle tradition. If done proper (and senate's are ok IMO) they are great things.

Just wondering, how is my opinion skewed?

I have never ONCE said all arrows are bad. If you can find ONE place where I did, then throw this all in my face, but I promise you, you won't. The placement of them is OK, I agree, but the problem is they just "appear" with no connection point. IMO it really hurts them and makes the whole piece look a lot worse.

Also, I see no way you can disagree with the rest of what I said. If you please tell me HOW the 3D is correct, or what that squiggle above the T is (I hope it isn't the L) then please do so. But I don't see it happening.

As I said, it's looks alright, It's better than a lot of what we see in here. I just see some glaring flaws, and like any critic of art, pointed out said flaws. It's what I'd expect anyone to do to my work.

No beef intended, at all. I just thinking your lumping me in with the wrong crowd, and it's a crowd I'd rather not be lumped in with.

skewed maybe not the best word. but you and kringe both are the same when it comes to the arrows thing. The minute you cats see arrows its a **** panic. The arrows in that piece are fine if they were drawn more tightly. Since when does anything have to come from anywhere? They are arrows for christ's sake. letters werent born with arrows last ii looked so if you are adding something extra, why not add it however? As long as it fits the flow of the body as a whole, decorations are decorations. Dude's letters have very good potential if developed. Just seems like you and Kringe(and yes the two of you definitely should be lumped together) have this instant trigger when it comes to arrows.


and yeah, the 3d is definitely **** up

No, I don't. Neither does Kringe actually, from what I can tell.

Oh and, well, seeing as your old, you listen to The Beatles hate hip-hop and enjoy politics. So does MG, Dust and Dookie.

See how easy it is too baselessly generalize people?


As I said, find ONE place where I didn't have a reason to dislike the person's arrows, and I'll concede the point. But until you can PROVE to me that I fit this fake "me: you have in your mind, please, I would ask you to stop calling this other person I don't know "Taok" or "you" when talking to me.


As for the decorations, did you even read what I said? Or just skim it and try and pick-out something to make you seem like you're all knowing (after all, it fits your massive ego (isn't generalizing people for no reason fun?)). What I said was, that because they come from nowhere it IMO (notice how that means in my "OPINION") makes the piece look worse. That being the problem with them. Not the fact that they do come out of nowhere. Though, I will admit, IMO, generally arrows that just "appear" do tend to look bad.

Good lord. can't you do any better than that. I am older than dirt for sure. And hiphop was good when it was real. Real hiphop is dead. But then, you just being a kid wouldn't even know the difference. And i am not about to waste my time digging through your posts. But if you look and actually count them, my point will be proven. And this ego of mine you refer to is simply confidence in the knowledge that you have yet to possess. On the matter of politics, I'll be dead by the time any of todays politics have a real effect. Being aware of the workings in the world would benefit you more than me.