The Monthly Battle Master contest - March 2010

[Taok]

You... completely missed my point.

That or your deliberately playing dumb to look cool.

My point stands. PROVE me wrong. Please. I beg you.

[SniperMexi]

here u go my toy peice couldnt color since im out of markers.

I mean im no graffiti judge butttttt i think the S and the T are alittle **** up.......

dude idiot theyre different graffiti 3d its suppose to go to different ways. look at how they join up

[SniperMexi]

Its art. people see it wit hthe same organs [eyes] yet we dont think alike so we have our own opinions.we must learn to deal with what other people dont and do like.Its our emotions in word form. =D

[Dwight]

nice work, but where is the L?

A quick Re work of my sketch, now into the pre final phase, add the highlights.
3d Was a little weird! Thanks for the feedback, hopefully better now.
Senate

[Gone84]

here u go my toy peice couldnt color since im out of markers.

I mean im no graffiti judge butttttt i think the S and the T are alittle **** up.......

dude idiot theyre different graffiti 3d its suppose to go to different ways. look at how they join up

google "multi point perspective" and see why your 3-d is **** up. just because the letters are twisted doesn't mean the perspective would be all retarded like that.

Taok, we need to take this argument to another thread. but having gone through your posts i stand corrected on lumping you in with kringe and the rest(so i guess the tally now stands at Taok 2-Gone 0 in our arguments) lol. I still stand by the fact that these "opinions" come off more like tear-downs and tend to do more damage than good. Regardless, senate's arrows are just fine. That "l" is pretty messed up though.

[JoanaJJ]

Sory...now i just put here what i think is reallly good...

[JoanaJJ]

Yes gone, I thought it was sig worthy. Also it's usually those in the know are the ones who read what you post.

Mexi, Put in in ur au (make one if you dont have one already, they're powerful tools) and get crits, this forum is for posting completed battle pieces that are WORTH POSTING. If you post something awful in here your just going to get flamed to hell, not constructive crits. Mindgem warned you, you thanked him and now your posting here and then trying to defend your work. When will you learn.

An Joanna I'm going to tell you to stop posting in this forum. Go learn first, battle later.

Mint

Sory...now i just put here what i think is reallly good...

[Username]

theres nothing wrong with senate his arrows indeed.

[Anrkyzt47]

Rules:
Only submit 1 piece in this thread.



read the rules.

I have read the rules and my first post was the sketch for the battle contest, the second one is a rework of the sketch, Not submitted, but just to show the other people that a sketch can look better, after I have now understood the level of the criticism that I was getting regarding the shading, arrows, blocks.....etc. Proving that I am interested in the feed back and can re work the idea after getting some feedback on the way others see my first submission. The reworked version is a little cleaned up as the things that other members mentioned about my piece where not clear to me, as I normally write Senate, and not Castle........

Thanks to the people that did like my work....





Senate

by the way Senate not trying to be ugly to you he was answering my question i asked if it was okay to enter more than one but i also typed in parenthasis if i could do it in my AU thread and he never answered it but its alright just letting you know

[Atmos]

Real hiphop is dead.

I think I love you.
I used to say this all the time. Everyone got so angry.

[mimiC]

Real hiphop is dead.

I think I love you.

and they call me gay. (:

[Atmos]

Because you are.

[Anrkyzt47]

Real hiphop is dead.

I think I love you.

and they call me gay. (:

i think without hip hop we wouldnt have graffiti

[mimiC]

Real hiphop is dead.

I think I love you.

and they call me gay. (:

i think without hip hop we wouldnt have graffiti

well thats retarded.. the cavemen did graffiti, but.. didnt have hiphop to groove to.

[Atmos]

Real hiphop is dead.

I think I love you.

and they call me gay. (:

i think without hip hop we wouldnt have graffiti

Graffiti has its roots just as much in Punk music as it does Hip Hop.

[Dust]

Actually Mimic & Atmos, he does have a very valid point as far as graffiti as I know it. Definitely in the UK without hiphop we wouldn't have had graffiti. It exploded after films like Wildstyle & Beat Street came over here although the Clash did use it in one of their videos, punk was really starting to die off and it had quite a small angry and political audience, hiphop gave more of the kids a few more outlets i.e the four elements. I think if those films hadn't have been made a wider audience wouldn't have been exposed to the artform.

I know more hiphop/electro fans that write than I do punk fans.......maybe it's not the case now, but when I want to write the old school stuff goes on the turntable......oh and I have some cassettes as well, if anyone knows what they are......seeing as I'm so old and decrepit and I smell of wee and cabbages. Lol. xx

[Anrkyzt47]

Real hiphop is dead.

I think I love you.

and they call me gay. (:

i think without hip hop we wouldnt have graffiti

Graffiti has its roots just as much in Punk music as it does Hip Hop.

touche
but it still has deep roots

[mimiC]

seeing as I'm so old and decrepit and I smell of wee and cabbages. Lol. xx

your cool points just doubled.

[Atmos]

Actually Mimic & Atmos, he does have a very valid point as far as graffiti as I know it. Definitely in the UK without hiphop we wouldn't have had graffiti. It exploded after films like Wildstyle & Beat Street came over here although the Clash did use it in one of their videos, punk was really starting to die off and it had quite a small angry and political audience, hiphop gave more of the kids a few more outlets i.e the four elements. I think if those films hadn't have been made a wider audience wouldn't have been exposed to the artform.

I know more hiphop/electro fans that write than I do punk fans.......maybe it's not the case now, but when I want to write the old school stuff goes on the turntable......oh and I have some cassettes as well, if anyone knows what they are......seeing as I'm so old and decrepit and I smell of wee and cabbages. Lol. xx

I get what you mean. I didn't mean to say it didn't have roots in Hip Hop or anything, I just meant from what I've learned, Punk and Hip Hop both helped raise it ... Or something.
But granted, Hip Hop definitely helped spread it a lot faster than Punk, I'd say.
I don't know. I don't have nearly as much knowledge on this kinda stuff as say, you or Gone. Just my thoughts on the subject.

I've still got a box full of old cassettes, too. Aha. I used to love those things. I stole most of 'em from my pops, though.
I've got a stack of records, and 8 Tracks somewhere too. But I rarely use any of those anymore. Ahaha.

**edit**
Sorry for blowing up this thread with random jibber jabber!

[Gone84]

Real hiphop is dead.

I think I love you.

and they call me gay. (:

i think without hip hop we wouldnt have graffiti

you might want to learn more history

[Anrkyzt47]

number 1 who should learn more history and number two with sharpies how do you create a shine like the light shineing on the words private message me or post on my thread Anrkyzt47's awesome thread

[Gone84]

Actually Mimic & Atmos, he does have a very valid point as far as graffiti as I know it. Definitely in the UK without hiphop we wouldn't have had graffiti. It exploded after films like Wildstyle & Beat Street came over here although the Clash did use it in one of their videos, punk was really starting to die off and it had quite a small angry and political audience, hiphop gave more of the kids a few more outlets i.e the four elements. I think if those films hadn't have been made a wider audience wouldn't have been exposed to the artform.

I know more hiphop/electro fans that write than I do punk fans.......maybe it's not the case now, but when I want to write the old school stuff goes on the turntable......oh and I have some cassettes as well, if anyone knows what they are......seeing as I'm so old and decrepit and I smell of wee and cabbages. Lol. xx

the worldwide influence of graffiti may have come from the whole hiphop fascination over here in the states, but that's honestly the commercial side of it all. That mess back in the early 80's with stylewars and beatstreet and all that was great for what it influenced, but it was a corporatizing(or however you would spell that) of remotely different art. Even the original members of TC5(which probably influenced more of style than anyone) were in a rockband. Old hiphop was a great thing before the "4 elements" pigeonholing of things that were only remotely related before that whole european tour went off. I, for one, despise the categorization of what we do and refuse to be tied to any of what hiphop has turned into by its corporate predators. NYC subway graffiti was happening in the 60's and predates what became "the hiphop scene" of the late 70's and early 80's. Not that I don't love the music and the foundation of it because it was a grand subculture. But graffiti being tied to hiphop as its root is almost blasphemy.

[Gone84]

number 1 who should learn more history and number two with sharpies how do you create a shine like the light shineing on the words private message me or post on my thread Anrkyzt47's awesome thread

Number One, see above posting. number two, there are lots of ways. But a paint marker is easier.


and sorry everyone for hijacking yet another battle thread

[Anrkyzt47]

i like that gone bc i am a definate rock punk music listening to er than hip hop but i live in mississippi so we have more black prominent graffiti than white but at my high school it is definately growing more popular

[Gone84]

i like that gone bc i am a definate rock punk music listening to er than hip hop but i live in mississippi so we have more black prominent graffiti than white but at my high school it is definately growing more popular

my buddy Siner was in MS about a year ago painting. I was on Camp Shelby at the time so no painting for me. I am not the biggest fan of that state tho. Seems like there's nothing there.

[Anrkyzt47]

dude you were at camp shelby? i live in oak grove which if yuo didnt know is a suburb community of hattiesburg that is awesome

[Gone84]

dude you were at camp shelby? i live in oak grove which if yuo didnt know is a suburb community of hattiesburg that is awesome

yeah i was on my way to iraq. not the best of times lol

[Anrkyzt47]

what do you do in the army and are you still there and how long were you there

[Atmos]

Actually Mimic & Atmos, he does have a very valid point as far as graffiti as I know it. Definitely in the UK without hiphop we wouldn't have had graffiti. It exploded after films like Wildstyle & Beat Street came over here although the Clash did use it in one of their videos, punk was really starting to die off and it had quite a small angry and political audience, hiphop gave more of the kids a few more outlets i.e the four elements. I think if those films hadn't have been made a wider audience wouldn't have been exposed to the artform.

I know more hiphop/electro fans that write than I do punk fans.......maybe it's not the case now, but when I want to write the old school stuff goes on the turntable......oh and I have some cassettes as well, if anyone knows what they are......seeing as I'm so old and decrepit and I smell of wee and cabbages. Lol. xx

the worldwide influence of graffiti may have come from the whole hiphop fascination over here in the states, but that's honestly the commercial side of it all. That mess back in the early 80's with stylewars and beatstreet and all that was great for what it influenced, but it was a corporatizing(or however you would spell that) of remotely different art. Even the original members of TC5(which probably influenced more of style than anyone) were in a rockband. Old hiphop was a great thing before the "4 elements" pigeonholing of things that were only remotely related before that whole european tour went off. I, for one, despise the categorization of what we do and refuse to be tied to any of what hiphop has turned into by its corporate predators. NYC subway graffiti was happening in the 60's and predates what became "the hiphop scene" of the late 70's and early 80's. Not that I don't love the music and the foundation of it because it was a grand subculture. But graffiti being tied to hiphop as its root is almost blasphemy.

I wish I was old, and knew what you know.
What the f*ck.
Write me a book.
I wanna kknnnoowwwww.

[Dust]

the worldwide influence of graffiti may have come from the whole hiphop fascination over here in the states, but that's honestly the commercial side of it all. That mess back in the early 80's with stylewars and beatstreet and all that was great for what it influenced, but it was a corporatizing(or however you would spell that) of remotely different art. Even the original members of TC5(which probably influenced more of style than anyone) were in a rockband. Old hiphop was a great thing before the "4 elements" pigeonholing of things that were only remotely related before that whole european tour went off. I, for one, despise the categorization of what we do and refuse to be tied to any of what hiphop has turned into by its corporate predators. NYC subway graffiti was happening in the 60's and predates what became "the hiphop scene" of the late 70's and early 80's. Not that I don't love the music and the foundation of it because it was a grand subculture. But graffiti being tied to hiphop as its root is almost blasphemy.

And whilst I appreciate all that I can only comment (as I did) on how graffiti came about in the UK. We would not have been exposed to graffiti without the old films. So although you may hate the corporate predation of the artform, it is surely what helped it to spread to such a wide audience as it has now. As I say, that's how it came to the UK. It also appeared in videos like Rapture and Malcolm McLaren's Buffalo Gals, which aren't exactly hip hop now are they Gone? Especially not Blondie, but the explosion here happened with the films and the films brought us the hiphop side of things. I wouldn't dare to comment on a scene I haven't experienced, which is your US scene, but I can comment with professor like status on the UK scene. In particular the whole Bristol scene which I was lucky to be a part of in it's baby years.